Sunday, December 19, 2010

If Israel didn't occupy West Bank,Gaza,East Jerusalem and the others in 1967 .....?

.... and the land remains as the UN Partition Plan in 1947 and everything is in piece without the Arab-Israeli conflict, do you think people will like Israel?


No, I don't think so. The Arab states attacked Israel just several hours after its declaration of independence.

I don't think people dislike Israel, I know there are Arabs spreading distorted news.

One billion people can make much noise.

Some here say only 300,000,000

probably not ,they would find some reason to criticize.

why do you think israel occupied that land in 67? because before then everyone loved israel?

the occupation was the response to terrorism, the result of arab hatred of jews, not the cause of it.

and when the occupation of gaza ended a few years ago, the arabs there did nothing but wage war on israel.

i suppose at that time abdul nasser was that great leader not only for egypt but for all arabs in total

they "big powers and israel"were planning all the time how to get red of him instead of making peace with him

at one time secret talks with israeli went on

but israel cut it down

just little after abdul naser was in power israel france and britain attacked egypt

that was the war which affected brits and french and it kicked them away,america did not join,it just watched in order to take their place within the few coming years

as a strategic point of the west

in this particular area if a lasting just peace could be established in middle east that leads to the end of the western presence in the area

and that was one of the reasons for the american war on lebanon via israeli army

to mr x

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answering only one point of yours

israeli never left gaza

instead of being inside they only moved to be out side

they never can export thier yields without having israeli permition

or inport food or medicine or even gas or petrol

they do not have doors and if there are doors they do not have the keys to the doors

boats are not allowed to sail for fishing

no comunication with west bank

no airoplanes to come or go

any one gets out must be tested with israeli cam

israel can vito any one to inter gaza

do you think that happened to france during its occupation by german

Most will like it but some will not. By the way, if there was no Israeli occupation, there wouldn't be Hamas and other terrorist organizations in the middle east so basically Israel the Israeli occupation is the cause of terror in the middle east both in a direct way (IDF) and indirect way.

No because they would still be on Palestinian land. What about the Palestinians who owned land in the area that was given to the Israelis in by the UN in 1947? Where are there rights? A Jewish state on Muslim land - Im sorry but no.

of course ,woul like them more than this would be some unity between tow nations,,,,things would be better for both and all of us

Not anymore; too much blood has been shed,mostly with massive air assaults. In the 50's the attitude was positive but that blew out the window in 1967 and deepened into hatred in 1982. They should have left well enough alone. 1967 will someday be remembered as the Beginning of the End for this nasty little government,in Strobe Talbatt's words.

I agree with Bosco. After the conclusion of hostilities in 1951 they were being left alone by neighboring sates and they would have been well-advised to keep their hands off other's countries' territory. 1967 was the year everything changed.

if the partition plan had been made with the consent of the resident population of the time, israel's extension would have been different, or even there would have been a one state solution, but things would have probably turned out better than with an imposition.

It would have made no difference, in any case 1967 was

destined to happen, as the time of the gentiles was over.

No. After all the reason 1967 happened is the Arabs were trying to destroy Israel. It has nothing to do with land it has to to do with a hardness of the heart.

This conflict has been going on since Isaac and Ishmael and will not end till Messiah comes to establish His kingdom.

No, they will still hate Israel. If Israel had not taken control of he Westbank Gaza and Jeruasalem, they would have been destroyed in the Yom Kippur war of '73.

The hatred really has nothing to do with the land.

Originally that is what Israel was when it declared independent, the next day the surrounding Arab countries invaded. They didnt want the Jews to have any land. Now they are soar losers and cry because they didnt get there way after attacking Israel 3 times and losing

After 1951 things settled down and remained fairly quiet. if the zionists had left it at that they might eventually have won the world's respect. The land-grabbing triggered off all the trouble - after the '67 war of acquisition the whole world found itself abruptly confronted with Palestinian resistance,and it became the world's problem. The west bank as a part of Jordon was essentially all they had left of their homeland. As to whether it would make any difference now to return it,my feeling is probably not,but it would be worth a try.

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