Wednesday, December 8, 2010

Should Israel invade West Bank and Gaza?

I think they should just invade that land and end the madnesss. A century ago they would easily get away with it. What do you think?


I am not sure that it would mean end of the madness.

It is not difficult to invade gaza and occupy it and it is not difficult to subdue the West Bank ; what the "heroic mujaheddins" are worth in combat we have recently seen in Gaza .

But what to do with them after that?

To make 3 millions of hostile arabs the citizens of Israel? It is impossible.

To hold them as the occupied popuation? It means to provide them with anything they want: from cheap school- books to German cars , Japanese computers and Israeli medical equipment. And all this- without getting a cent from them , because they are "occupied","poor" and "innocent victims".

I do not say that this second variant is impossible; Israel is strong enough economically to maintain another 3 millions of arabs loafers ,in addition to almost 2 millions she has been maintaining for the last 60 years, but I do say that it would be simply silly.

The best solution, of course, would be to just throw them all out of Gaza and West Bank, paying them the compensation and offering a good stimulus package to any country which would agree to accept them. The first and most evident candidate is Jordan 80% of whose population are the palestinian arabs. But Jordan becomes hysterical at the simple mentioning of the perspective that these 3 millions of arabs from West Bank and Gaza would move to Jordan. It scares Jordan much more than the open war with Israel although they know full well that they will be defeated in a week, because the jordanians also know very well that the Israelis will come - and go , while 3 millions of palestinian arabs guided by the bandits of Hamas, Fatah and Jihad Islamica will come- and stay. But Israel must continuosly probe this variant with different arab countries, and as soon as one of them agrees - throw this plague called "the palestinian arabs" out of Israel without any hesitation.

Second variant is just declare the unilateral separation from the West Bank , announcing officially that Israel since this day considers her borders passing...where Israel considers best for her,without taking in the least consideration the screams of the "International Community (if this "Community" swallowed Iranian nukes, it will also swallow this, and all will end in "protests" and "activists landing in Gaza") , and that she will defend these borders from any attacks with all means at her disposal. After that arabs can create their "state" whenever they want and take for this all the time they need (such as I see the situation, it will take them some 200 - 300 years) .

No, they just gave them back in 2005. And the backlash they'll suffer from the global community would be a lot worse then anything they'd gain.

What would be the justification for that? You know there are real live PEOPLE living there. I know Israel would like us to believe the Palestinians are sub-human animals, but that is not the case. What is wrong with people these days?

No, more invasion means more blood of civilians.

no one is thirsty for blood.

No I think they should Invade your house.

In your dreams.

why israel do this?brothers hamas and on fath do thir best and more than that israel can do,,,,as wee see and hear about fighting and killing between our beloved brothers

Israel already occupies 85% of the West Bank. There's not much left to invade.

Israel's problems stem from the fact that it is always invading, killing, and occupying. As long as Israel continues to do this it will suffer the consequences.

A big cure for this problem would be the end of all US aid to Israel.

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At the order of Defense Minister David Ben-Gurion on May 26, 1948, the Israel Defense Forces were officially formed as a conscript army out of the paramilitary group Haganah, incorporating the militant groups Irgun and Lehi. It served as Israel's armed forces in all the country's warsâ€"the 1948 Arabâ€"Israeli War, the 1956 Sinai War, the 1967 Six-Day War, the War of Attrition, the 1973 Yom Kippur War, the 1982 Lebanon War, and the 2006 Lebanon War. While originally the IDF was operational on three frontsâ€"against Lebanon and Syria in the north, Jordan and Iraq in the east, and Egypt in the southâ€"after the 1979 Egyptianâ€"Israeli Peace Treaty, its activities have mainly been concentrated in southern Lebanon and the Palestinian Territories, including the First and Second Intifada.

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I'm ashamed to say that I used to feel this way. I felt like how dare Israel compromise and give away the Holy land that G-d has given them. Well you know what? If you truly believe that G-d has given Israel the land, then you must know that He will bring it to pass that every bit of the land that He has given them will revert back to His people. And Biblical Israel is three times the size of the land that is now called Israel. So the battle for the land is far from over. Israel however does not have to fight, or fret, cry or moan, complain or kvetch. Suck it up Israel. The promises of G-d are yea and amen. Or dont you believe Him?

A century ago is 100 years ago. And 100 years ago the Holy land was called the British Mandate of Palestine. And although the British were negotiating with the Zionists (even before the Holocaust happened) for a Jewish state in the Holy land do you think that the British would let them invade it right away without any further reason (the Holocaust and anti-semitism in Europe was the only reason for them to have Palestine!). I also think that it should be the Europeans that should pay for their atrocious holocaust and centuries of anti-semitism (even in the most religious enviornements, aka RCC) and not put the burden of it on Arabs who were not anti-semetic and allowed Jews, as well as Christians to practice their religion freely in their own communities known as "Millets" in the Ottoman Empire. And invading the West Bank and Gaza won't end the "madness" you describe, it would only cause more madness. Because when a power occupies your country, kills women and children and innocent men, destroys and demolishes homes people tend to get upset. It is such a shame you don't realize that.

No.

is this b'itch for real? b'itch, are you for real?

yeah man! more war!,

what a wonderful idea.

no...i think the IDF girls should invade my house and interrogate me while we're all in the hottub together.

A century ago they were all over Europe, even longer some of them were not even of the Je wish faith. News flash, they already invading the the West Bank, and Gaza. The West Bank / Gaza was for Jordan and Egypt prior to 1948. Why don't you take a history class.

West Bank? What is it?

South France id North Bank, not The West Bank.

No, if a century ago people could get away with theft, murder, evading taxes, doesn't mean there is not a higher moral absolute.

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