Wednesday, July 21, 2010

Wasn't the Gaza strip and the West Bank part of the "Promised Land" that God promised Abraham?

I tried to see what land was contained in the Promised Land but I can't find a map that shows all of the land that was promised to Abraham. What land was in the twelve tribes of Israel at the time of King David etc. and why do they have to give up land in Gaza and the West Bank?


Technically, the land promised to Abraham included all of what we'd call the Middle-East.

The land called Israel in the Bible was the area of land which was promised to Jacobs Children... Jacob was the son of Isaac and Isaac the son of Abraham. If you read Genesis it become more clear. Esau and Ishmael's Children all got land as well. Even Lot's (Moab) children received land in the area promised to Abraham.

So, Gaza and the West Bank are apart of Jacob's (Israel's) lot... and should be given to the Jews without question. They even won it in war, so it's theirs by right of war as well.

Yes, Gaza belongs to the Jewish people. The "West Bank" belongs to the Jewish people. The ENTIRE land of Israel belongs to the Jewish people, from Egypt to Iraq.

Anyone can read the Bible and see that these lands ALL belong to the Jewish people forever.

The land of Israel has been given to the Jewish people by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, as a permanent inheritance.

Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Gen 15:19 The Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites,

Gen 15:20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims,

Gen 15:21 And the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites.

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Deu 11:24 Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be.

Actually if you study the scripture the land that was promised was in what is now south western Iraq.

Palestine was taken because it was close by and the Palestinians were poor and had little influence on the world stage.

Love and blessings Don

Yahweh promised the whole land of Canaan to the ''ancient Israelites''.

A God Given right is a nice thing to have

God did not give anything to anyone and does not play favorites. In fact, if you read the first verses of Joshua this so-called "promised land" would include all the Middle East and Turkey. Look at

http://timeoftheend-faithandreason.net

Funny how the people who wrote the book are the ones that the book entitles land to..

and doesn't it make you wonder why the US has had all the natural disasters since the Bush admin gave Gaza away? God will not be mocked!

for some maps, you might want to try this

http://searchingthescriptures.net/main_pages/maps.htm

it isn't everything, but it might help as a start

Here is a link to biblical maps.

http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/biblicalmaps/qt/BiblicalMaps.htm

The reason they gave up the land is because God said that he would scatter Israel throughout the world. When in 70 AD the Romans destroyed the temple and the Israelites were then scattered throughout the world.

God also said he would gather Israel like together again. In 1948 Israel became a nation again after almost 2000 years of being scattered throughout the nations of the earth. While they were scattered the Palestinians ruled the land that is Israel. When Israel regained the land in 1948 the Palestinians were to share the land according to the UN. That is the basic reason why they are there now. There is a lot more detail to the whole thing but that is the basics.

If you would like to know more just ask. Would be happy to get you more details if you would like.

Yes it was promised to Abraham and his descendants through Issac.They should not have to surrender their land, it is just a small part of the massive area that Islam controls today.

It was actually all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates...that is :

Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq.

Are you suggesting that these countries become part of Israel?

Problem is: Who ARE the descendants of Abraham? I suspect its most of the people of the Middle East if my population genetics serves as a suitable guess.

muslims believe in abraham too and they are his descendants so what's up with the promised land to a specific few rather than the descendants (which would pretty much include all abrahamic faiths)

“His Majesty’s Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of the existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.”

Yes both were promised to Israel and they will take them back even if by force.

CJ has stated it better than I can;

Israel owns it, No matter what :

unfortunately both the Arabs and the jews are the decendents of abraham so you could not use it to justify genocide of an entire region.

Yes Donna, it was the Land that God promised Abraham.

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